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Dracula 公演結束整整一個月,該來的終於還是來了。
WFC 剛剛發信正式通知大家小花退社的事情了。
這事偶還在東京時就曉得了,
不過看到正式通知還是很震撼。

退社是一回事,
偶想本站同學們更關心的可能是「夫婦」的部份吧。
偶個人對愛情的詭異多變非常有體驗,
所以這種事情偶打死也不幫人掛保證。
不過也因為自己的經驗,讓偶相信自己的眼睛與判斷,遠勝於於去別處聽來看來的傳言。
偶認為他們兩個都沒事,不論是一體或者個別,都沒事
偶認為這只是個事業經營與發展的轉折階段而已。

不過,任何猜測期望都不如善意耐性的等待,
因此偶非常不願意在這種時刻去講蝦米「偶認為」,
但畢竟開了這麼個站(而且打算繼續開下去!),
出沒的各位同學也真的是對和花有愛
總不好偶自己覺得沒事卻害得別人睡不著吃不下
(不過再提醒大家一次:愛情這種事偶不幫人家掛保證)

無論如何,請大家一本初衷(或者藉機反省一下自己的初衷)
繼續與小央小花一起往人生前途邁進!

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当年小花从社长位置上下来,偶心里就很不是滋味来着。看来痞子的博后稍稍安心了一些,可是现在又退社。我真的安不下心了。
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不是滋味?不安?你去現場看看小花那個光采奕奕,美麗穩重,就曉得沒啥好自尋煩惱的 Cool

收拾一下自己的負面思維啦,小花都幾歲人了,沒啥好替他蝦操心的。

 

哎,真的。那就好。希望是小花复出就好了。如果小花重组FC会的话我一定要去加入。

oh god, has hana stopped being yoka's manager?? are they breaking up? can someone please tell me?

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Hana is not Taka-chan's manager now. One senior WFC staff has been taking up this part of work. I don't know will Taka-chan look for a new manager or not. I think probably not.Cool And I don't think TAKAHANA breaks up. Kiss

do you think hana has some special relationship with 鈴木綜馬? she's acting with him again for love letters.

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How about Hana-chan having some kind of special relationship with one of the MODEA girl? WAHAHAHA. ok, I'm just joking. Smile

Mr. 鈴木 has worked with TAKAHANA in Dracula as well as in Dietrich. He and Taka-chan got along so well that they called each other "Dora-chan" (from Do-ra-cu-la) and "Tora-chan" (something like this, from Dietrich) in private email and joked about playing with the cloaks at the curtain calls.

TAKAHANA appear to like to work with people who they are familiar with. I think Hana-chan agrees to perform with Mr. 鈴木 in Love Letters because (1) 鈴木 is indeed a very good actor (2) Love Letters is a great show, yet requires very few preparation (3) As a way to thank 鈴木 for his past cooperations so that TAKAHANA (no matter it's individually or two together) will have more chances to work together with Mr. 鈴木 in the future. I think it's for pretty much the same reasons that Hana-chan agrees to be the guest vocalist in MODEA LIVE.

Special relationship? If you mean a romantic relationship, then my answer is no, I don't think so.

thanks, i was shocked to find out Hana is not Taka-chan's manager anymore, and now this news that she's leaving the club. wondering why.

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Well, is not it true that not many couples/ husbands and wives work for the same company? Cool

In my opinion, TAKAHANA had been preparing for this career rearrangement for a long time. It just that things did not go as smoothly as they, and everyone, hope. But no matter what had happened, it didn't seem to have damaged their personal relationship. TAKAHAN looked so normal during Dracula! In the past 5 years I saw most TAKAHANA's performances and went to numerous irimachi and demachi. I couldn't find anything abnormality from them, either individually at iri-de or together on stage (on man...they were even HOTTER than before) during my 20 days' stay in Japan for Dracula. My theory is simple: NOBODY can divorce a life-time partner in April and be so normal in August. NOBODY. Not to mention Hana-chan had become even more beautiful than before, and Taka-chan even more handsome. And not to mention during Dracula there were occasions Taka-chan and Hana-chan left the theater togehter by car, and other actors/actresses/friends wrote on their blogs that they went to have meal together with TAKAHANA after the performances. So....the only conclusion I can get is : Hana-chan's withdraw from the WFC is just a business decision. TAKAHANA is still TAKAHANA.

Sorry, I can't help noticing that you said the other actor/actresses said they went to dinner with "TakaHana". Do they actually call Wao and Hana "TakaHana"? Well if they did, that is so cute...

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並沒有。公演期間有其他共演者跟小央的友人提到大夥一起出去吃晚餐或宵夜,提到時都是把當天所有去的人名字一個個列出來,並沒有特別用到TAKAHANA這個詞。偶上面回文時一時偷懶,抱歉讓你白高興了一場咧Tongue Out

Oh well that is ok since I half-expected to not happen anyway ^^;;  Oh the trials of being a fangirl 

thanks 痞子. they are pretty much in a romantic relationship aren't they? i saw a 1997 video of them in HK and taka-chan kissed hana-chan's neck while they were rehearsing. wonder if they already started going out since then, which means they've been together for around 14 years. i'll be very upset if takahana breaks up because you don't often see that kind of love anymore.

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Well, isn't it simple? If you has been soooooo much in love with another person for 14 years, can you break up so suddenly, and still look and act so normal? I believe in my own eyes rather than the rumors. Don't worry yourself too much for them. I believe they are quite ok :)

sigh, check out the discussion here. http://senecaca.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-933.html#comment

why would hana-chan leave the club...

 

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Be patient. Time will bring the answer. No need to worry yourself too much. Smile

http://takahana.5d6d.com/thread-352-2-1.html

 

"TAKAHANA永远是TAKAHANA"

Hi 痞子-san,

I have been a long-time reader in the past and had been on hiatus away from the TakaHana fandom for a few years, but I'm back now since a couple of months ago when I first heard about this news.  There seems to be two different schools of thought as to what's going on with TakaHana personally.  It's comforting to visit your blog and see you are quite confident with how they are.... but it's just that it's been some long months since Dracula has finished and during this time I have hardly heard anything about Wao and Hana being seen together and I'm getting worried with all the negative rumours again.    I mean... why didn't Hana show up (even as an audience member) for Wao's mini-live a few days ago (it was in the mountains and kind of far from Tokyo)?  They're not together for work, but if you are "together" with somebody, an event like this and kind of far from Tokyo, I would expect the partner to attend :S  I have really admired their relationship and it's sort of like a fan-girl dream to me, so I'm rather broken about the possibility that the dream may be no-more..... 

I'm still hoping for some news of them together soon to still my worries :(  What would you think if Hana does not show up (even as an audience member) for any of Wao's live concerts this year?  I don't want to be bearer of doom and gloom but that's mostly what I can see right now v_v

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偶想大家只有記得過往三不五時就有TAKAHANA的目擊紀錄,但似乎很少人去區分哪些是發生在她們私人生活的範圍,哪些是因為一起工作所以被目擊。其實她們私生活時被目擊的紀錄極少,退團五年多以來有沒有五次偶都很懷疑,換言之,這兩個人本來就很會躲,現在如果下定決心要躲著飯,那飯要目擊到更是難上加難。以目前的狀況,偶認為沒有目擊並不代表什麼﹝只有代表她們很會躲﹞,反過來如果是出現一堆小央或小花經常一個人﹝或別人陪伴﹞逛街買菜吃飯之類的目擊,那才比較「有義意」吧。

至於你認為的如果兩人還在一起,那小花至少應該會以觀眾的身分出現在小央這次八岳高原演唱會的說法,偶完全不認為如此。八岳高原小演唱會對身為演藝人員的她們倆來說,不過是個再平凡不過的小型常態工作之一而已,又不是什麼有特出意義,像五十周年紀念,退隱公演之類的東東,哪有啥必要找親朋好友來「觀禮」。偶們這款平凡小老百姓,一輩子難得有個登台的機會,才會上台唱個歌講個話就要把情人老婆家人通通都找來熱鬧,但對於天天都在當明星而且已經老夫老妻的她們,不過就像是老公出差兩三天,老婆在家帶小孩一般,與其到高山上去吹冷風,還不如在家等著「小別勝新婚」有情趣吧 :P

話說回來,小花就算有去,她也不需要出來給飯看到ㄚ。上次史吹翔去幫小央化妝,如果不是他回來後在自己的部落格上提到去了一趟八岳高原,整場幾百個飯也沒有一個曉得他當天在場ㄚ。只要有心,要避開飯不是多困難的事情。是飯本身太容易把自己看到「冰山的一角」當作是「整個世界」了。

Thanks for your comments, 痞子-San :)  You have raised some interesting points on why Hana may not have attended the mini-live.... especially with regards to the cold weather in the mountains; I find that the most compelling reason yet.

As for Hana not being noticed by anybody ... although it is possible if she tried hard enough, I don't agree with that as, unlike the other person you mentioned, I'm sure alot of the fans in the audience would have been specifically looking for Hana especially  during this period of uncertainty, so unless she really wanted to hide (and I don't think she would care enough about being spotted in the audience to wear drastically unrecognisable makeup :p)

But, thanks alot for that! It's nice to hear of your opinions and thoughts on this issue as I'veread hearing alot of other, less positive conclusions on the current TakaHana situation v_v

对于新入坑的人,痞子桑的blog真是大好!谢谢~

其实对于HANA没有出现在这次的mini演唱会,我和blue_cosmos有着同样的担忧。(这当然是因为我们都希望HANA赶紧出现在某个场合让我们都安心一下)不过说实在的,HANA既然已经退社,当然也就没有必要每个活动都要去出席了。(否则,不是和之前一样?)据说2010还是2011年开始,HANA已经不再主持茶会之类的活动了,那时都还没有退社。(不知是不是从痞子大这儿看到的,希望没有记错时间...)

我倒是同意blue_cosmos的另外一个观点。如果HANA在今年五月不出现在WAO的任何一场演唱会的话,情况可能确实不太妙。因为演唱会应该是很重要的活动了,而且也说明了每场都有guest,如果邀请了很多人,独独没有HANA,难免会让人担心。不过,现在离5月还很早,让我们再耐心的等待一下吧~也在此送上我们的祝福,这么多年走过来不容易,希望你们生活的幸福~

 

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五月的演唱會,偶並不很認為小花會像以往兩次演唱會一樣以「其他演出者」的身分出現咧。演唱會這類型的東東(含DS, mini Live)跟演劇不同,小花上場實在很大材小用,而且對央飯花飯都不見得有討好到,偶覺得真正的用處只有在昭告天下小倆口之間的無敵夫妻愛而已。但昭告天下這種事情做久了是會彈性疲乏的,何況身上還背著同志身分的社會壓力,都老夫老妻了還這麼愛招搖也不全然妥當。再加上小花本身早就對舞台演出沒多少興致了吧,所以偶認為只要這次演唱會小央一個人還撐得起來,小花會選擇在家閒散而不是上台正式參演。

不過話說回來,偶想夫婦倆目前也還在觀望局勢、還沒完全決定要怎麼做,才會雖然訂購單都發下來了,但其他細節都沒有公佈。換言之,現在是民意還可改變局勢的時候吧。所以,如果各位真想看到小央小花同台,那就勤快點、趕快寫信去直接跟小央講吧,偶想這樣會比流連各網站打聽八卦或背後默默幫他們兩燒香都還有效囉~

Enjoed the read. thanks!

回顾最初wao的工作,无论是《中央流沙》还是《茶茶》其实都不是很成功的,wao的确太男前了,有公子的贵气,但却没有天海的强势,这样在个人风格很难找到准确定位,虽然2人可以借助黄金控比来活跃舞台拓展人气,但我觉得这种模式其实很难持久的,毕竟日本的社会和宝冢的舞台相差太远了,除了宝冢饭有多少人喜欢看2只在台上台下卖萌呢?(当然我个人是非常喜欢)。 细心留意会发现wao现在转变很大,男前的姿态已经柔弱了很多,要是2人还如以前一样那就很难有突破了,所以2人分开工作应该是对大家都有好处的,2个都能独立发展,2个都能成熟起来才是最好的。 个人觉得hana真是伟大啊,为了和wao一起top等了6年,退团后又作为经纪人相伴了6年。不论她们到底有没有那个什么的,但起码这个情谊就不是用一般的友谊可以定论的了。 人生有多少个6年呢,我们还是耐心等待,带着期盼和祝福,见证2人一个又一个的6年吧。
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小央的工作重點是舞台,電影電視只是玩票。天海則恰恰相反。
換言之,拿中央流沙跟茶茶的小央去跟日劇裡的天海女王相比,偶認為並不恰當。
要比,應該是拿Chicago (就退團初期來說)來做討論,
否則要說到所謂(退團)"最初不甚成功的作品"
那天海也可以數出更大一堆來,而且他的定位期更長。

如果因為小央的飯人數沒有天海多所以小央有定位問題,那恐怕也是不大正確
因為飯的人數與其用處,對這兩個人來說,差別甚大
天海純粹是個演員,
但小央表面上是演員,但實際上他後台製作全都自己主導,
天海幾乎不與飯打交道,但小央很花精力在這方面上
這些反映出兩人性格不同,也很現實的反應出兩人生財之道大大不同
天海是靠在大眾之間的知名度賺廣告代言費
而小央則是靠 舞台票房+自己製作=整體收益掉入自己口袋。
小央當然是需要拓展飯人口﹝誰都需要吧﹞,
但他並不會像天海一樣需要那種泛泛大眾的知名度。

人都是會對慣常的事物感到煩厭的
所以小央與天海同樣會「需要」﹝也會「想要」﹞拓展新的演出方向
小央這兩三年是多了演女人(某些型)的本領,讓偶覺得非常有趣
但偶反倒覺得天海卡在女強人的定位上,有突破的瓶頸。

要說到小花,
偶覺得小花對小央退團後事業的重要性不是在舞台上而是舞台下。
從寶塚時期的專業演員到現在全都自己包來做的個人事務所
小央前些年的「事業拓展」最重要的不是拓展飯人口﹝他的飯夠多了﹞
而是去摸索出舞台製作過程中林林種種的各種業務﹝不熟怎麼能賺﹞
但在熟悉萬般事項之前,絕對需要一個夠信賴的人出面去幫他接洽
小花當經紀人,對外絕對不會讓小央吃到虧,對內兩人又可真心交換意見心得
這才是倆人事業上最重要甚至必要的。
至於舞台上,小花飯(=票房)人數很有限,
夫妻愛飯(指專門為了看夫妻愛而買票的)更是稀客
偶這幾年來進出劇場觀察到的是如此
拿小央去年history演唱會與小花在STB137的小型live的票房數相比顯示出來的也是如此
所以要說是拓展人氣,不如說是夫婦倆寧可犧牲票房也要自己爽 <== 偶愛這種個性

偶對"2人分开工作应该是对大家都有好处的" "2个都能成熟起来才是最好的" 這些說法不甚贊成。
好處是有,但壞處也不是沒有。
要說好處,偶覺得充其量算是央企現在業務熟了,所以可以讓小花「功成身退」
小花本身是個好演員,現在把握時光多演幾個戲當然沒啥不好
但這之外的,好處是在哪?偶不覺得。
而且偶認為,好演員是少,但他們兩個同台時展現的夫婦愛威力才真是世界獨一無二的絕品。
這不是升級而是降級了。偶非常惋惜。

"他們兩個同台時展現的夫婦愛威力才真是世界獨一無二的絕品。" 如果這裡是批踢踢,我就會推爆這句話